Martin Pannier is a French entrepreneur who started the company Primo to help small and medium-sized businesses get their IT work right for new employees. He’s worked as a product leader at iziwork, Gusto and several others. In addition to being a founder he’s also a husband and the father of one young daughter. In our conversation today we discussed:
Raising a daughter in a multicultural family
How to avoid the temptation to view parenting as an accomplishment
Why not to focus on over-optimization of parenting
Maintaining relationships outside of the family when it’s hectic
The balance of two working parents when one is a founder
His most surprising aspects of becoming a Dad
A few things he learned very quickly after his daughter was born
Having a newborn and running a company
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Where to find Martin Pannier
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinpannier/
Primo: https://www.getprimo.com/
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In this episode, we cover:
[1:37] Welcome
[1:51] Background
[5:25] Martin’s Childhood
[8:25] Martin’s Family
[11:58] Did he have to convince his wife to move to France?
[15:09] Their decision to start a family
[17:23] What it’s like having a newborn & running a company?
[21:53] Multicultural parenting styles
[25:56] Terrible parenting advice
[28:04] Earliest memory of becoming a father
[30:07] Parenting as an accomplishment
[34:22] What surprised you the most about becoming a dad?
[35:39] Diaper changing competition
[36:43] What did you learn after having your daughter?
[39:34] How he has prioritized maintaining relationships outside the house
[41:04] Favorite book to read to Juno?
[42:02] Family language in a multilingual household
[43:57] How has having child/starting company impacted your life?
[45:58] What he hopes for his daughter’s relationship to technology
[50:03] What’d he give up to become a dad?
[51:39] Mistakes made as a dad
[53:25] Where to follow Martin
[54:44] Rapid fire / lightning round
[1:00:40] Thank you
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Show references:
iziwork: https://www.iziwork.com/fr/
Gusto: https://gusto.com/
Paris, France: https://www.britannica.com/place/Paris
Seine: https://www.britannica.com/place/Seine-River
World Bank:https://www.worldbank.org/en/home
French Space Agency: https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Engineering_Technology/Centre_National_D_Etudes_Spatiales_CNES
Siqi Chen’s Startup Dad Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=I2Nm5Mkj0s0
Sheep In A Jeep: https://www.amazon.com/SHEEP-JEEP-Nancy-Shaw/dp/0395470307
War and Peace: https://www.amazon.com/War-Peace-Vintage-Classics-Tolstoy/dp/1400079985
Where The Wild Things Are: https://www.amazon.com/Where-Wild-Things-Maurice-Sendak/dp/0060254920
Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-maslow-hierarchy-of-needs
Baby Camera: https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-5Display-Pan-Tilt-Zoom-Temperature-Lullabies/dp/B09GM8JZM9/
Hatch Lights: https://www.hatch.co/
The Expectant Father: https://www.amazon.com/Expectant-Father-Ultimate-Dads-Be/dp/0789212137
Lion King: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/
Honey I Shrunk The Kids: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097523/
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Multicultural Families and Avoiding Over-Optimization of Parenting | Martin Pannier (Dad of 1, Founder/CEO Primo)